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Old 02-26-2010, 11:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default Border Collie or Australian Cattle dog?

I have been looking at several breeds of dogs i might get. I know almost all of the dog breeds. I like smart, loving, and easily trained dogs. I hear that both of these dogs have many of the same features. Here is a little about myself:

I live in a house with
One 10 year old
One 14 year old
One 16 year old
One Ferret (will the dog herd her if they are intruduced as a pup?)
And Two Adults.

So as you can see they need to get along with children. We have 4 chickens and a medium sized yard. Since I live in the mountains of Japan there are A LOT of rice fields (like corn fields) around here to run and train in. So there is PLENTY of wilderness, trees, hiking, etc.

Can a border collie live outside? Do they have a coat that will withstand temp. outside? It does not get too hot or cold around here. but I am just curious.

Can a ACD (australian cattle dog) live outside? Do they have a coat that will withstand temp. outside? It does not get too hot or cold around here. but I am just curious.

Thanks to all the BC and ACD owners out there who helped me out.
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Default Border Collie or Australian Cattle dog?

The BC will herd. It's what they do.

Why do you want a dog that will live outside? If you want a furry lawn ornament, why not get a topiary instead of a living being?
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Default Border Collie or Australian Cattle dog?

Both of those breeds are great dogs, they are very smart, energetic, loving, and love people and especially children...They do need a lot of training and have to be given something to do, they are herders, they are used to being outdoors, but no dog should live outside all of the time...It sounds like both of those dogs would love where you live because of the fields and and other animals, they are both perfect dogs for you...good luck and I hope this info helps
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Default Border Collie or Australian Cattle dog?

Both dogs have weather resistant coats and can deal with cold and heat, but ideally, neither dog should be living outside. We get a companion to be a family member, to share our lives and if our lives are indoors than those dogs should be indoors when we are.

Both breeds are going to have a strong prey drive and so will need to be supervised around the poultry until they can be taught that chasing and eating chickens is unacceptable. Even then I wouldn't let them have free access to them.

Dogs that are raised with children are better with kids than those who are not socialized with kids from the time they are pups. Both of these breeds tend to chase and nip and so can scare very young children, but yours are old enough to be able to teach the dog when that sort of play is unacceptable.

The Border Collies do come in both a smooth and rough coat, so if a longer coat and grooming isn't your cup of tea, a smooth coat would be a better choice. The ACD is also has a very easy to maintain coat.

Both breeds do need training and something to keep them busy or they can get into all sorts of trouble so be sure you are ready to dedicate a few hours a day to exercise and training.

They are both wonderful dogs and I don't think you would go wrong with either one.
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hi,

to know what type of dog will suit you, you can use this dog finder match up http://tinyurl.com/6gkcok
the goal here is to help you figure out what type of dog best suits your personality and lifestyle. The results of the match up will suggest certain breeds.

hope this helps
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Can a border collie live outside? Do they have a coat that will withstand temp. outside? It does not get too hot or cold around here. but I am just curious.4
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