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| Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 22 Rep Power: 0 | What do you think the people are going to do about this?"Biden proved once again that it doesn't take outright falsehoods to create a skewed impression of one's opponent. We found in a Sept. 15 speech that: * Biden used partial quotes to support his charge that McCain wouldn't help "small borrowers" suffering in the mortgage crisis but would "fight for those that lost their ... real estate investments." In fact, McCain's full quote said he would also fight for those who "lost their jobs" and "savings," and he has proposed assistance for homeowners. * He said McCain called Sen. Webb's GI Bill proposal "too generous." McCain never used those words. He did support a less-costly version of the bill. * Biden repeated several other talking points that we've previously critiqued for their spin, including the accusation that McCain would give $4 billion a year in tax cuts to oil companies." A new Obama-Biden ad includes misleading claims about McCain and education spending: * It says McCain "voted to cut education funding" and lists five votes. But one was a vote for increased education funding, although for fewer dollars than what Democrats may have wanted. And three others were votes against additional funding, not votes for funding cuts. * The ad says that "McCain's economic plan gives $200 billion more to special interests while taking money away from public schools." Not exactly. McCain has proposed a one-year freeze on discretionary spending in general. A freeze would mean that funds would not keep pace with inflation and population growth, but no dollars would be "taken away." The $200 billion for "special interests" refers to the cost of McCain's proposal to reduce the tax rate for all business corporations, not just a few "special" ones. * The ad says McCain proposed abolishing the Department of Education. He did once say in an interview that he "would certainly favor" abolishing both the departments of Education and Energy, but he hasn't pushed for either." factcheck.org is the source |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0 | If you're going to read factcheck.org, then you would do well to read all of it and see the inconsistencies and outright lies that McCain and Palin are putting out there. Neither ticket is better than the other when it comes to lying. Both sides do it. "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones." |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0 | Republicans do the same thing. Are we forgetting that the goal of both parties is to seek power? |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0 | Oh, please, no one has lied more than John McCain and Palin. The worst thing about it, everyone knows that they are constantly lying but it doesn't stop them. |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0 | It's cheap politics, when they are feeling the pressure than they resort to these underhanded tactics. I think it's disrespectful to their voters to lie like that. |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0 | Obama is a disgrace. How many people say, "Oh, he will be the first black president!" Obama is more white than black. He is 1/3 black, 1/6 arab, and 1/2 white. Therefore, technically speaking, he is mostly white. Now you idiots can say, well he's got black in him. He also has white in him, which he abandons. He could move to antartica for all i care. |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0 | dont just pick and choose your statments. McCain AND Palin have both stated lies as well Plain Palin is especially a dumb broad who tells lies. Dear SCHMITTY Obama is more white than black. He is 1/3 black, 1/6 arab, and 1/2 white. Where is your proof??? Nowhere have I heard anything about Obama being arab. Or do you just saying that because you are claiming he is a muslim - which he is not. |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 25 Rep Power: 0 | Dems have always believed that the ends justifies the means. It is because they are generally rather arrogant and they truly do believe that they know best. They think that Americans should just give up their freedoms and their thinking processes to big government. Conservatives generally believe that tradition is very important, but that people should learn how to think for themselves. |
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